Did BPs come with different oil pans?

[svtfast]

I was looking at a part number index for a 1990 323 with a BP and it shows some odd things. The text is in russain so I cannot read it.

I want new oil pan bolts but when I plug in the PN for the bolts I get this:

Electrical - Alternator - Alternator - Bolt
2.0 liter 1997

I am sure Mazda reused bolts but where can I find out if these bolts work on my oil pan that came from a 94 EGT?

[CaymenEGT91]

as far as I know the only different BP oil pans were on Miatas, (sump opposite side)
And on 2nd gen BPs which didnt have all the same forged internals (Stamped steel pan)

[jay]

And o'course the BPT pan has an oil return bung for the turbo... but I don't think the bolt pattern's any different.

[mx-3_4evr]

automatic BP oil pans are different from manual BP

[Mazda_Powered]

correct, manual and auto pans are different.

[lazerbluepro]

correct, manual and auto pans are different.

how are they different? i got a bp from the junkyard and its off an auto . Will there be any issues bolting this to a manual car or do i have to change the pan?

[jinx]

There is also a skimpy stamped steel bp oil pan iirc.

[Turpro]

Lazer- the only different is there's a cutout on the auto pan to get to the tq converter bolts. Just make sure the black cover is on it or you could risk getting debris in your clutch

[lazerbluepro]

thats good to know. Thanks for the info !

[Ace]

Getting that black cover back in is damn near impossible.

[jumpncrash]

mine, well not mine anymore, but anywyas, has been running for about 60-80k kms without anything over that hole, I probably should let the new owner know that he might want to cover it up.
I've never had issues with it but u never know.

Nick

[MD323]

Getting that black cover back in is damn near impossible.

just give it a good thwack with a rubber mallet, that all i did

[Ace]

I tried that and it shot across the garage.. lol

[jrally]

I never found a BP that had a steel oil pan. I found other Mazda engines with the shallow steel pan and aluminum girdle plate. If there had been a BP with a steel pan that bolted up to my engine, I would have used it for sure. As for the cap on the automatic pans, yes they are a pain to get back in, just keep trying. My last race car had an auto pan and that cover ended up partially melting, due to the long tube header running close by.

-Jon

[jinx]

Quoted from wiki.. < lmao

The 1,839 cc (1.839 L; 112.2 cu in) BP is a dual-overhead variant of the B8. It was first found in the 1989 Mazda Familia and American-market 1990 Mazda Protege LX. This engine was dubbed BP-ZE and featured a forged crankshaft, piston oil squirters, a structural aluminum oil pan with cooling fins, and Variable Inertia Charging System (VICS). This particular variant can be found in the following vehicles:

• 1989-1994 Mazda Familia GT (European & Australian Market)
• 1989-1994 Ford Laser TX3 (Australian Market)
• 1990-1994 Mazda Protege LX (with VICS)
• 1995-1998 Mazda Protege ES (Australian Market BA)
• 1990-1991 and 1993 Mazda Protege GT (Canadian Market)
• 1990-1993 Mazda 323 (European Market)
• 1991-1996 Ford Escort GT and LX-E
• 1991-1996 Mercury Tracer LTS
• 1995-1997 Kia Sephia RS, LS, GS
• 1994-1998 Mazda Familia (Japanese Market)
• 1994-1997 Mazda MX-5/Miata (did not have VICS until 1999)

There is also a non-performance version that is most easily recognized by its black stamped-steel oil pan. It also features a cast crankshaft, no oil squirters, a plastic oil pickup tube and less aggressive camshafts. It is found in the 1995-1998 Mazda Protege ES.

Aussie market, so probably why you haven't seen one before.