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    #16
    Originally posted by Ace View Post
    let me ask you this...
    what is the benefit of putting that on?
    Underdrive pulleys reduce friction HP because they cause the water pump and alternator to rotate more slowly at a given rpm, thus absorbing less IHP. Strictly speaking, they do not add HP on their own but since IHP-FHP = BHP, the result is a small increase in HP at the crank. On engines operating at high temperatures, such as occur during prolonged racing events, it might not be a good idea to slow down the water pump for obvious reasons.

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      #17
      ^^^ The opposite could be true as well.

      The Stock Water pump is only truly effective from 2500 - 3500. Over that and the pump begins cavitation.

      If the car is meant for prolonged duty high in the RPM range, the under drive could actually improve the performance of the cooling syste, but then once the car is idling in traffic, you are going to miss that extra 300 RPM of water pump..

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        #18
        ^^^
        Interesting point. I hadn't thought of that.

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          #19
          I ran under drive pulleys on my tiburon for years without any issue... and I know many others that have never had an issue... Tiburon pulley has the same type rubber separation as the mazdas... you will be fine...

          just like all the bs people talk about how fidanza flywheels are bad... when I have had nothing but amazing results... Just run it.. you will be fine

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            #20
            I have seen two threads on here and one on ff.com about people blowing their oil pump gears with under drive pulleys on boosted applications.
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              #21
              his car isnt boosted. And ive seen cars without underdrive pulleys that are boosted and na break oil pump gears... whats your point?

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                #22
                I'm not going to risk it guys. I decided to just take it easy and make the engine last until I can afford to rebuild my motor. I decided to stick with the bp for now... FE3 is a little to pricey for me with my college student budget....
                My family has lots of bg's!
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                  #23
                  Originally posted by The Pile View Post
                  his car isnt boosted. And ive seen cars without underdrive pulleys that are boosted and na break oil pump gears... whats your point?
                  True that! A balanced crankshaft with a light weight pulley should be a problem.

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                    #24
                    its not the balance that causes most vibrations... believe me I design crank dampers all day long... its the engine firing and the crankshaft twist caused by the firing that causes the vibrations. Anyway... the original purpose of the thread has been settled I think.
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                      #25
                      Originally posted by nerd racing View Post
                      Anyway... the original purpose of the thread has been settled I think.
                      Yup
                      My family has lots of bg's!
                      2003 Ford Escort ZX2: Project car/future daily driver. Built Ford Tough (With Mazda Stuff)
                      1999 Escort ZX2: Daily driver/beater. Going to be replaced by the '03 next summer.
                      2000 Escort ZX2 S/R: bought wrecked, going to use as parts car
                      1992 Protege LX: My old race car. Just a wrecked shell right now. Waiting for scrap to go up so that I can get rid of it.
                      1992 Mazda 323: Race car
                      1992 Escort Gt: My grandpa's old race car
                      1994 Escort GT: My grandpa's new race car.
                      Parts cars; 1993 Escort Gt, 1995 Escort lx

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