2 questions... help please?

[Denis]

I'll let it go this time, but don't let it happen again!

What ya drinkin' on?

Beer of course. It's my pain killer...

[Steel_Knuckles]

I like Magnaflow.

Like Taz said, you're current cat is junk for a reason. Check into that before replacing it, or you will just ruin the new one. Check your A/F ratio.

Would an AEM EFI system be necessary? I heard those things work wonderst for evolution VIII's in the A/F area.

[Tjay]

apex-i

[Steel_Knuckles]

Here are some sound clips.

Below is the HKS. this is actually my fav in terms of sound...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44OxSRFFGWY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_v_ViJl_VBc

Here's the Blitz NUR. problem is, it's the CAT and not the muffler itself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyB7nfGtaBk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hI0EEuQ3HKQ

And now here's the Apexi.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IS7cvecvRI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cftwk-vwIjA

[Jho]

Keep in mind that the way those sound on those cars isn't necessarily the way they will sound on your car.

It all depends on what the rest of your exhaust setup is like, and wether you have a turbo or not.

[Steel_Knuckles]

Keep in mind that the way those sound on those cars isn't necessarily the way they will sound on your car.

It all depends on what the rest of your exhaust setup is like, and wether you have a turbo or not.

yes, but after listening to several sound clips, the HKS has the deepest note. Apexi is next up but everyone has it. I've gotten advice from others telling me to go with a Tanabe Hyper medallion as well. The Blitz NUR is just way too damn loud. Plus i can fit my fist and my forearm in the damn thing.

my sleeper WILL have the turbo. my showcar which is the first one to receive the experimental treatment, will not.

I'm strictly modding it as an advertisement car for my college's auto body class and www.anime-expo.org

The only two cars i will ever buy are Mitsubishi Evolutions and Mazda Proteges.

They're the only cars that are comfortable and have owners who are polite and sensible. (hate to pick sides but a lot of xB and civic owners are dickweeds...)

[escortkid]

scion owners suck and break thier cars constantly which then makes them my friends denis hate to disagree but how does a resonator choke the exhaust i mean a magnaflow has no baffles or anything to cause restriction therefore no chokeing.

[Steel_Knuckles]

scion owners suck and break thier cars constantly which then makes them my friends denis hate to disagree but how does a resonator choke the exhaust i mean a magnaflow has no baffles or anything to cause restriction therefore no chokeing.

LOL. ever since turbonetics released the 140hp gain turbo kit for the tC, everyone's been buying em like crazy.

SRT-4's and Scions are the new civics...

used more than a skank on Hollywood Blvd.

[Tazman2]

LOL. ever since turbonetics released the 140hp gain turbo kit for the tC, everyone's been buying em like crazy.

SRT-4's and Scions are the new civics...

used more than a skank on Hollywood Blvd.

But a civic can still out handle a scion lol damn lego blocks! And yeah i'd buy a SRT-4 if i had to choose because those things are faster stock then both a scion or civic with a "kit"!

[Jho]

denis hate to disagree but how does a resonator choke the exhaust i mean a magnaflow has no baffles or anything to cause restriction therefore no chokeing.

He meant silencer.

Sorry, been drinking, silencers choke the exuaust.

[Steel_Knuckles]

He meant silencer.

Which is what's making me lean towards the Apexi with ATS.

ATS is short for "Active Tail Silencer".

That means during regular driving, silencer is activated for streetability. But once you floor it, the silencer deactivates and opens up windmill-style vents to allow full airflow and a hella lot of noise.

I'm still stuck between Apexi and its ATS and HKS with its all-around great track record.

[Steel_Knuckles]

Well, i was forced to buy the HKS. It was $280 +tax, while Apexi N1 was $355.

How much should i expect to spend on installation plus resonator?

[benchracer01]

I work at a muffler shop here in Va. we usually charge about $100 to install a muffler and cat. btw if you plan on getting a high flow cat go with the Magnaflow "spun cat" it is designed for tight fit apps and flows very well. we install them here all of the time. one more thing get the cat with the metallic substrate not ceramic. the steel is a little more forgiving to fluctuations and rich conditions without self destructing. and on the resonator there is no restriction as long as the inlet/outlet is the same diameter as the pipe coming in or out. it is designed to reduce unwanted noise and tones. basicly it is nothing more than an inline muffler. me personaly i have hollow cat shell i slid over the pipe and welded in place. gotta love no emissions testing. but for all intensive purposes you only gain about 2 hp by doing what i did.

[Tazman2]

one more thing get the cat with the metallic substrate not ceramic. the steel is a little more forgiving to fluctuations and rich conditions without self destructing.

I assume the ceramic cats are usually what you get? I bought a magnaflow cat off of summit but no idea if its steel or ceramic! Anyway to tell without removing it?!

[Jho]

I assume the ceramic cats are usually what you get? I bought a magnaflow cat off of summit but no idea if its steel or ceramic! Anyway to tell without removing it?!

Drill a hole into it, and stick a magnet in there.