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    Backfire out the wastegate?

    ... is that due to too much fuel?

    JoN - Automotive Machinist Journeyman/Refrigeration Mechanic Journeyman
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    #2
    could be...

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      #3
      what are you A/F ratios when it's happening?
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        #4
        Yikes!
        Timing maybe?
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          #5
          Too much fuel that finishes burning in the exhaust and WG. Your EGTs are high I suppose?

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            #6
            Well this only happened when I upped the boost on the wastegate. A lot of pow pow bang bang, sounded like an old Batman show. I'm thinking too much fuel that the MS needs to be more sensitive, change some lag times.

            My A/F's were good... 11.8's while on boost. My timing should be good cause I don't get bangs when I down the boost. The spool is much quicker, as in it gets to full boost faster now so I'm thinking sensitivity on the MS.

            JoN - Automotive Machinist Journeyman/Refrigeration Mechanic Journeyman
            Member of MX-3.com
            1996 Mazda MX-3 RS - Creek Blue Mica
            1993 Mazda MX-3 GS SE - Raspberry... RIP


            Racing BP (Project "Blue" Marlin)... Twin Scroll GT3071R, breaking 30psi at the moment!

            "Do it ONCE, do it RIGHT!"

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              #7
              If I remember correctly you have the standard 2.5Bar map sensor in there. So we might have set a boost cut at around 20-21psi since that's where the sensor maxes out at and that's exactly what it would sound like.

              EDIT: We can take the boost cut off, but I don't recommend going too much above the 21psi point and there is a risk of a runaway (oh noes) turbo/boost condition that won't be stopped without the cut. It would be called overboost protection in Megatune.

              Something like this:



              I can look at it on Monday
              Last edited by Lex; 09-02-2009, 10:42 AM.

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                #8
                It's funny tho, it wasn't anywhere near 20psi when the backfiring started... maybe 10psi or more.

                JoN - Automotive Machinist Journeyman/Refrigeration Mechanic Journeyman
                Member of MX-3.com
                1996 Mazda MX-3 RS - Creek Blue Mica
                1993 Mazda MX-3 GS SE - Raspberry... RIP


                Racing BP (Project "Blue" Marlin)... Twin Scroll GT3071R, breaking 30psi at the moment!

                "Do it ONCE, do it RIGHT!"

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                  #9
                  Hmm maybe something else. Can you reproduce the event all the time?

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                    #10
                    Yup... almost every time I stepped on the pedal. I'll try again tonight when I get home.

                    I love the feeling of this setting cause the boost hits a lot harder, or as in the wastegate keeps shut longer.

                    JoN - Automotive Machinist Journeyman/Refrigeration Mechanic Journeyman
                    Member of MX-3.com
                    1996 Mazda MX-3 RS - Creek Blue Mica
                    1993 Mazda MX-3 GS SE - Raspberry... RIP


                    Racing BP (Project "Blue" Marlin)... Twin Scroll GT3071R, breaking 30psi at the moment!

                    "Do it ONCE, do it RIGHT!"

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                      #11
                      So it backfires now with the new setting but boost does not get to 20psi before it backfires? Also, what if you lean into the throttle slowly?

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                        #12
                        I'm thinking I have to gap my spark plugs smaller... it's probably having a misfire at high boost. It pops around 10-15psi... and only happens when I give it the beans.

                        I also had some popping tonight at my normal setting... gonna pull the plugs tomorrow and have a look.

                        JoN - Automotive Machinist Journeyman/Refrigeration Mechanic Journeyman
                        Member of MX-3.com
                        1996 Mazda MX-3 RS - Creek Blue Mica
                        1993 Mazda MX-3 GS SE - Raspberry... RIP


                        Racing BP (Project "Blue" Marlin)... Twin Scroll GT3071R, breaking 30psi at the moment!

                        "Do it ONCE, do it RIGHT!"

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                          #13
                          Plugs or plug wires have done this for me. Jon drop me a line with when you'll be by on Monday.

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